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« on: February 19, 2017, 10:27:41 AM »
Anyone know who built the houses and when on the Hady Estate?

Having only ever used the road at the side as a means to get from Calow to Hasland it's the first time I have been round the estate after dropping a friend off at her home.

The houses are 'quaint' -  different from what I have seen around Derbyshire.
Just intrigued by the history of them.
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Re: Hady -
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 07:26:34 PM »
I have at the back of my mind that it was a Coal Board Estate but I have no idea who or when it was built.

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2017, 08:14:44 PM »
I have at the back of my mind that it was a Coal Board Estate but I have no idea who or when it was built.

Interesting Umpire, it's nothing like the Coal Board houses in our village which were concrete blocks. They've been titivated up in the last few years though.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2017, 09:08:14 PM »
I presume you mean the houses with the windows in the roofs OC  :)
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2017, 09:19:27 PM »
Yes fly and the roof is a different shape - I think they are lovely.
Someone has said they thought they were Dutch?
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2017, 09:23:22 PM »
Not dissimilar, a ex customer of ours used to live in this house up Brookside(Brampton)  (y)
When she moved it went for £495,000. Bet it's worth even more now  :o

Edit: Forgot the link LOL  :P
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2017, 04:29:00 PM »
Yes it is similar but doesn't take me eye as the Hady ones do - very unusual buildings
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Re: Hady -
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 06:57:31 AM »
Yes Fly.

I have an elderly relative who lived there for many years but I never visited their home. Now in hospital but I will ask him when he comes home and see if he can tell me more.
They don't live there anymore.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2017, 07:46:24 PM »
Back many years ago when I worked for the Halifax Building Society (as it was known then) these properties had a sort of concrete slab type construction below roof level and there were great concerns that the metal ties between the inner wall and concrete slabs had severely rusted - thus the outer walls could literally fall off! Therefore the outer walls were replaced by bricks & mortar which is how you see them today. I assume the local authorities did this - there were  some houses too in Calow of a similar build.
There was a point where you could not get a mortgage on one of those properties I seem to remember because of the potential flaws.
My Brother recently had one and has now moved elsewhere - they seemed nice houses :)
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2017, 08:00:44 PM »
Prefabricated reinforced concrete (PRC) houses fall within the more general category of non-traditional housing. This means anything that is not a conventional brick or timber frame structure and includes steel frame, cast in situ concrete and PRC construction. Steel frame and cast in situ concrete are not too problematical. There are issues with them and a buyer would be well advised to have a specialist building survey when buying one. PRC houses are more tricky because many lenders will not grant mortgages on them. This is why they tend to be a lot cheaper.
 
So what are they? After the war there was a shortage of building materials and a massive demand for low-cost housing to replace the urban dwellings that had been destroyed. Although the idea for building this type of housing had been around for many years it wasn't until the 1950s and 60s that it really got going. There were many different types of PRC houses and they were usually named after the companies that built them. Examples of this are Unity, Cornish Unit and Airey.
 
After 1979 when Mrs Thatcher's Conservative government came to power council houses started to be sold off. Initially people were keen to buy the non-traditional houses as well as the brick built ones but once they were in the private sector and no longer the responsibility of the local housing authority some of the problems started to become apparent. After a project conducted by the building research establishment, legislation was passed called the Housing Defects Act 1984. This was subsequently incorporated into the 1985 Housing Act. Essentially this condemned many of the PRC designs as fundamentally defective. Most of the problems related to corrosion of the reinforcement and deterioration of the concrete. After that lenders would not advance money on them unless they were the subject of an approved repair scheme.
 
PRC Homes Ltd was set up as a subdivision of the NHBC (National House Builders Council) in conjunction with the CML (Council of Mortgage Lenders) and this company undertook repairs under the supervision of a structural engineer which basically involved removing the external walls and replacing them with traditional cavity walls. The inner parts of the structure and the roof remained intact and so the building had to be supported during the process. There were examples of local authority repairs that were not licensed under the scheme and lenders would not advance money on those. The scheme was wound up during the 1990's and no longer exists.
 
A house that has been the subject of a PRC repair with a certificate is generally acceptable as mortgage lending security but if it is in its original state it is unlikely that you will be up to get a mortgage. There are specialist companies that will lend on them but as in all areas of finance you would be well advised to tread very carefully and to seek independent financial advice before getting involved with companies of this nature.

As this is Hady your referring to, I'm guessing Chesterfield Borough Council.
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Re: Hady -
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2017, 09:58:38 AM »
Chuffin ell scimitar that's a post and a half but very informative thanks.

It sounds as if Umpire was maybe correct then that they may have been Coal Board houses as the ones in our village were concrete and needed the work doing as described in your post.

Just to add a large housing estate in Matlock had similar work undertaken and council houses on the Adlington's Estate Wingerworth the council also had a lot of work done of I think maybe similar nature.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2017, 04:12:03 PM »
Amazing what copy and paste can do :P (y)
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2017, 05:54:50 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2017, 06:11:11 PM »
Amazing what copy and paste can do :P (y)

I was looking for info last night and didn't really find much so you did better than I did.
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