End Austerity March June 20th

[Old Cruser]

It’s now twenty days since the General Election.
Already over 60,000 people are signed up to the huge End Austerity March of 20th June.

Is it going to make any difference though, I think this government will stand their ground - but at what price to others.
Troubled waters ahead in my opinion.

[Fuppet]

Can you please explain what the Austerity problems that need addressing are?

[Old Cruser]

Fuppet it seems that many will be protesting on June 20th mainly because of the harsh welfare cuts to some of the most vulnerable people in the UK which are expected to increase in the Autumn this year.

Whilst some need a kick up the backside to get them earning a living many others have been penalised as in the bedroom Tax, and high unrealistic expectations of some to find a job when clearly they are not able.

We watched a Benefit program a couple of weeks ago which I had recorded a while ago.
All of the  people in this program where clearly able to work and just took everything they could from the State.
It gives a bad reputation to the genuine people but for some reason TV seems to portray this type of person rather than genuine ones.

[Fuppet]

Thanks for the clarification.

My experience of benefits is that too many people are given too much money for their refusal to get a job!

Things aren't so good in certain sectors at the moment regarding jobs, but that isn't down to the government.  For example, the oil and gas industry have made a lot of redundancies, but this is a worldwide issue, not something the UK has control over.

[Old Cruser]

I totally agree with you fluppet, I think it was JR who said the problem with the welfare shake up was they have used 'too wide a brush' or something like that 
I know from my own experience what a worry it can be at the moment. Not for myself as I've always been fortunate to work, but for my daughter who was disabled by an illness at 17/18yrs old.
I would love to think she was able to work.

There has been a lot of input from Mental Health Teams and RNIB  to name two as the reassessment made no allowance for people within these two groups.

What do you think the reason for the gas/Oil industry redundancies are fuppet?

[Fuppet]

Investment in oilfields due to the low price of a barrel.  Personally and i'm no expert, but i feel that OPEC/Saudis have lowered the cost of a barrel intentionally, so the new fracking companies in USA can't survive as they have higher overheads.

[Old Cruser]

Investment in oilfields due to the low price of a barrel.  Personally and i'm no expert, but i feel that OPEC/Saudis have lowered the cost of a barrel intentionally, so the new fracking companies in USA can't survive as they have higher overheads.

Ahh that may be a possibility Fuppet, fracking could well do the Saudis out of some business do you think, many are against Fracking.

[Pete]

Austerity is a political choice, not an economic necessity. This isn't about "paying off the deficit" this is about selling off our public services for private profit.

And I am against fracking too... 

[Old Cruser]

Austerity is a political choice, not an economic necessity. This isn't about "paying off the deficit" this is about selling off our public services for private profit.

And I am against fracking too... 

Cameron would disagree with that Pete but I don't. It's just big squeeze!!
Oh and put ya tongue back in - if the wind changes you'll stay like that 

[Jim]

What's the betting that this time next week we are back here commenting that the march has been ruined by the usual suspects with their own agenda smashing up stuff etc? There was an anti-austerity march in Chesterfield last week, 60 people took place, which the organisers rounded up to the nearest 100. People really have been hammered into submission.

[Old Cruser]

I hadn't heard of the one in Chesterfield - welcome to the forum by the way 
Had I been free I would have probably joined them!!

You are probably right as well re- people on the big march with their own agenda - out to cause trouble.

[Fly]

Hi Jim, welcome to chesterfieldonline 
Nice to hear that a local march went without incident 

[Jim]

Just realised, I thought I had posted a thank you for the 'join' earlier but it hasn't stuck. Age related I suspect

[Old Cruser]

Just realised, I thought I had posted a thank you for the 'join' earlier but it hasn't stuck. Age related I suspect

Sure you will be made very welcome on here Jim 

Age related - join the club as in old cruser.


Friday night at a celebration in Glossop - they had me joining in the Locomotion line - round a field - in heeled shoes 
I honestly don't know how i didn't fall flat on my face 

Ahh the joys of old age eh