Author Topic: How can they justify this  (Read 5218 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Old Cruser

  • Global Moderator
  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 8,690
  • Water please Not wine
    • View Profile
How can they justify this
« on: July 29, 2014, 08:32:53 PM »
With all the cut backs coming how can they justify paying anyone £85,000 per year???
They say they are losing  some of their 'senior management team' and so will save money
But £85,000 A YEAR.
Come CBC get real  >:(


Cash-strapped council chiefs have defended their decision to employ two new executive directors each on £85,000 per year.

A group representing taxpayers claims the move by Chesterfield Borough Council – which needs to save £1million over the next year – will “raise eyebrows”.

But the authority insists the controversial step will actually cut the cost and number of senior managers.

Andy Silvester, campaigns manager at the Taxpayers’ Alliance, said: “Councils across the UK are having to find savings after years of spending beyond their means – so these salaries will raise eyebrows.

“At a time when the council is pleading poverty and talking about increasing charges, local residents will want to know that every penny of these significant pay packets is hard-earned.”

Huw Bowen, chief executive at the borough council, said: “This move will actually save taxpayers £110,000 each year and follows a restructure of our senior management team that will see five head of service posts removed and replaced with two new executive director posts and a chief finance officer post.

“This is on top of the £181,000 saved since 2012 by not filling the vacant deputy chief executive and head of housing posts.

“The changes made actually reduce the cost and number of senior managers – something which the Taxpayers’ Alliance has been campaigning for.

“It also seeks to ensure the council has the very best senior officers to implement the decisions of the town’s politicians so we can continue to deliver great facilities and services for the people of Chesterfield.

“These types of restructures have happened throughout the organisation as we seek to deliver high-quality customer services while also reducing costs.”

The new posts were originally advertised internally and the affected employees were invited to apply for their jobs.

Both were unsuccessful and have received undisclosed redundancy payments so the posts are now being advertised externall
« Last Edit: July 29, 2014, 08:35:12 PM by Old Cruser »
The old lady with the wonky middle finger

Big Dave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 703
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 09:48:58 PM »
CBC will claim that if they don't pay the same rates of pay as the private sector they won't attract the right calibre of applicant. To a degree I can understand that as these directors will control multi-million pound budgets (much as they would in industry). It's just that it'll be public money and they won't be answerable to shareholders but to elected members and ultimately the electorate.

Fly

  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 8,158
  • ' 2E0IFY '
    • View Profile
    • Taximania
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 10:13:34 PM »
So unless the council are paying a friend a nudge nudge  ::)
Which is very doubtful.
It doesn't actually look as bad as it reads.  :-\
Over 90% of all computer problems can be traced back to the interface between the keyboard and the chair

therealjr

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,148
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 10:36:07 PM »
Mr Bowen is being a little economical with the truth unless there's journalistic licence
I'm not an Alcoholic. They go to meetings
I'm a drunk I go to the pub

Slacker

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,547
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 06:34:54 AM »
These posts are replacing Deputy Chief Executive (established post but not currently filled) and 4 Heads Of Service and are part of savings forced by reduction of government grants but don't expect the Derbyshire Times o report it like that.

therealjr

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,148
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 07:57:28 AM »
Deputy not currently filled? Are we toeing the party line again Cllr?
I'm not an Alcoholic. They go to meetings
I'm a drunk I go to the pub

Big Dave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 703
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 09:15:37 AM »
Why the need for a CEO? The Executive Directors should have sufficient knowledge and experience to run the show?

therealjr

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,148
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 10:04:11 AM »
You have to have a single named person as the legal entity. The Treasurer (head of finance chief accountant whatever) is the same legal entity for the finances.
I'm not an Alcoholic. They go to meetings
I'm a drunk I go to the pub

Big Dave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 703
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 11:00:16 AM »
Apparently other councils manage without a CEO, saving over 100K a year + on-costs.

therealjr

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,148
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 11:15:31 AM »
someone would still have to be named and be the one the 'buck stops with'.
I'm not an Alcoholic. They go to meetings
I'm a drunk I go to the pub

Big Dave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 703
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 11:54:30 AM »
Don't BDC and NEDDC share a CEO? Amber Valley BC doesn't have a CEO, one of the Executive Directors is Head of Paid Service.

therealjr

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,148
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 11:09:06 PM »
Still makes him first amongst equals and paid more. Is Cllr Slacker quiet because he's trying to find out the truth?
I'm not an Alcoholic. They go to meetings
I'm a drunk I go to the pub

Big Dave

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 703
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 06:39:12 AM »
You'll find they're both within a £75,000 - £80,000 salary band and one of them is a woman....

Slacker

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,547
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 06:52:23 AM »
Deputy not currently filled? Are we toeing the party line again Cllr?

Previous one left about 3 years ago and there was a short period where someone was acting deputy.

therealjr

  • Senior Member
  • Posts: 2,148
    • View Profile
Re: How can they justify this
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 04:26:28 PM »
A short period? I think that short period was most of the 3 years!!! Which makes 4 people being made redundant taking about 75 years worth of Chesterfield experience out of the door with them in favour no doubt of two chinless wonders full of management guru bs and no real understanding of the needs of the community. But then it doesn't help when the chief exec chooses to live in Buxton!!!!
I'm not an Alcoholic. They go to meetings
I'm a drunk I go to the pub

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk