Same sex marriage in church

[Fly]

Don't have issues with civil cerenonies, not a big 'God' supporter.
We were married in a civil ceremony.

Why do people think they have a right to ne married in the eyes of god ?

Adam and Eve, not Brian and Steve !!

[Fly]

ne = be  lol
Surely it's not normal under the bible ?

[therealjr]

According to the church marriage ceremony we are married 'till death do us part'.
My ex wife is still alive.
I was offered the opportunity to be re-married in a church.
The Church basdically does whatever it suits at the time.
To be honest I think marriage is getting to be an out dated concept let alone same sex marriage.

[Pete]

Agree

[~Aitch~]

I have no issue with civil ceremonies for gay couples. I do, however, fail to understand why they would want a Christian ceremony when the prime reason for marriage (according to the book of common prayer) is "for the procreation of children."   erm ... how??

[Slacker]

Churches have relaxed their rules e second marriages because if the amount of venues now offering weddings and receptions under one roof.

Why do couples, gay or straight, who are not church attenders want to get married in a church?

How does banning women bishops work with the equality laws of this country?

Quite like this comment on modernisation of the church:

[Old Cruser]

I don't have a problem with this at all.
What I did have a problem with was when my daughter was Christened part of the service was to forgive me for my sins in having my baby --- why??? I don't consider I committed any sin.

[chesterfieldchris]

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[Fly]

if they do have the right to

Now that sounds like my point. Only the gobby ones 'DEMAND' the right.
The 'Majority' don't care.

[Slacker]

If they are gay & religious why shouldn't they have church wedding?

Wondered why MPs are debating this but church had the say in not allowing women bishops which goes against employment laws

[therealjr]

but church had the say in not allowing women bishops which goes against employment laws

Quite simple.
It doesn't

[Scimitar]

Whats the point? You can get married virtually anywhere you want to nowadays.Lots of places hold licenses to perform wedding ceremonies gay or straight.
And I kind of understand the Church point of view for that particular reason. Why should they get involved? If they think its going to offend people - fair enough I suppose.
I could perhaps understand it if a gay couple who were extremely religious wanted to be "married" in a church, but then we get problems with what the bible says I suppose, and Vicars (gay or straight), have a duty to their faith.
I'm not particularly religious - so it would not bother me one way or the other. I have many gay colleagues at work, whom I get on greatly with, even to the point of joking about their sexuality without offending them, and it's normally good humoured.
If same sex folks want to get married, they'll find a way, and why not?

[Pete]

I don't think this should be a political issue, I think it should be sorted by the church and those that actually go to church.

Bunch of men in frocks...

[therealjr]

Always strikes me as ironic in anything like this that institutions like the CofE are willing to accept gays into the church take their money off them in the form of collections/donations but then deny them access to all the 'benefits'.

[Old Cruser]

Exactly JR!
The Church can be double sided when it wants to be, some often live a 'front public' life but what goes behind their own doors is another story. I speak from experience of the past!
I too have gay friends who I value for their friendship and wouldn't be without them as friends.
One of the reasons congresations have fallen off is because the Church has failed to move with the times - and please don't say they refuse because of what is in the Bible - as JR says they accept gays into the congregation - I know of one male gay who plays organ in the Church and runs a youth group.
Fornicated at times they are.