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The whitest of white elephants
« on: August 12, 2023, 11:50:52 AM »
It all started in 2010, some bright visionary thought up HS2  this miracle of the age was very quickly approved and fully costed at £31 billion {a hefty some even then}

By the time 2015 came round HS2 was already beset by many problems, with calls for it to be scrapped, these calls were ignored and it was re costed to about £57 billion.

Now in 2023 and not even half completed it has had another audit and the new sum is £97 billion {and counting} if by some miracle they could complete it without more problems the total bill will be somewhere in the region of £106 billion.
Monetarily it will take the country DECADES to recoup the money even before anyone sees any benefit. Just think how they could have improved the WHOLE of Britain's rail system with only half that amount.

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Re: The whitest of white elephants
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2023, 12:08:54 PM »
They were very busy with HUGE cranes near Lichfield when I was down there last weekend...

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2023, 08:05:33 PM »
It would appear the building work for the new Euston station has been mothballed. Work has ceased at Old oak common, the last stop before reaching Euston {due to funding problems, big surprise} so they are not sure if it will continue.

So in readiness, should it re start, they are planning to "bury" two huge boring machines at O.o.k. ready to go into action straight away if or when necessary. This pause could be anything up to two years or then again not at all.
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2023, 01:52:44 PM »
Now in 2023 and not even half completed it has had another audit and the new sum is £97 billion {and counting} if by some miracle they could complete it without more problems the total bill will be somewhere in the region of £106 billion.
Monetarily it will take the country DECADES to recoup the money even before anyone sees any benefit. Just think how they could have improved the WHOLE of Britain's rail system with only half that amount.


I heard that one wag in government, upon hearing about the discussion concerning the cost and delays on the London to Birmingham line, was heard to remark:-
"It would have been cheaper, and quicker, to move Birmingham lock stock and barrel to just outside London". I think he may have a point!!           
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2023, 07:49:14 PM »
According to the news when the London to Birmingham phase is complete the government are going to throw in the towel.

So the North will lose out again, all that dosh just to see absolutely nothing happening. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this was a stupid idea from the get go.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2023, 08:35:56 AM »
so much land wasted, so many places demolished....plus loads of houses the project bought....

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2023, 09:30:01 AM »
I think they need to look at and improve what we've got rather than spend  money on new ventures.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2023, 01:38:13 PM »
According to the news when the London to Birmingham phase is complete the government are going to throw in the towel.

So the North will lose out again, all that dosh just to see absolutely nothing happening. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this was a stupid idea from the get go.

According to the P.M.'s speech, that's just finished, HS2 will be scrapped. Everyone on t.v. over the past week has been asking ministers {and the P.M.} to tell us it's scrapped and none of them would admit it, so why wait till this speech to announce what everyone knew?
His idea is that the North and East Mids will instead get money spent on upgrading the infrastructure already in place, something most people wanted to see happen from the very beginning, it's been a very costly turnaround.



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Re: The whitest of white elephants
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2023, 04:13:04 PM »
so all the land that has been torn up, buildings demolished...damage done....who will put it right? and would that happen, or will they leave it all, and get awards for 'rewilding'?

 

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