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Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« on: March 03, 2016, 04:37:54 PM »
In answer to WCT's remark about the state of buildings in Chesterfield - I have received this email today.
It reads ( if I am reading it correctly ) as if for the moment the privately owned buildings won't be spruced up

Statement:

We the undersigned petition the Chesterfield Borough Council to Look into a fund matching scheme to allow the owners of historic buildings to restore the facades to their pristine state

Justification:

The famous black and white buildings of Chesterfield are looking tired and shabby. many of these buildings are not owned by the Council and the private landlords are struggling with their upkeep. Some councils have introduced schemes where the Council matches funds raised by landlords using money from grants, lottery funds etc. to allow the buildings to be maintained. We need to act now to save Chesterfield's historic heritage! This is a non-party political petition - please show your support

Chesterfield Borough Council response Re: Petition - Black & White Buildings of Chesterfield

This statement is in response to the petition regarding concerns about the condition and maintenance of the Black & White buildings in Chesterfield. As recently highlighted to the ‘Save Chesterfield’s Black and White Buildings Campaign’ the Council would agree that they play an important role in contributing to the character and history of Chesterfield, particularly in the town centre.

Most of the Black & White buildings were constructed in the 1920s and the 1930s and are notable examples of the Tudor Revival style (which has its origins in the Arts & Crafts movement of the nineteenth century). The Council is currently holding a public exhibition of the Black & White buildings at the Chesterfield Museum, details of which can be viewed here: http://www.chesterfield.gov.uk/Latest-News/Museum-puts-town’s-black-and-white-buildings-in-the-spotlight-14-2242.html

As a consequence of their architectural and historic interest, most of the Black & White buildings are included within the Chesterfield Town Centre Conservation Area. The Council has prepared a Chesterfield Town Centre Conservation Area Management Appraisal (2006) which highlights the role the buildings play in contributing to the town’s character. This can be viewed on the Council’s website:

http://www.chesterfield.gov.uk/Conservation-Areas-850.html

Regarding the request that Chesterfield Borough Council ‘look into fund matching schemes to allow the owners of historic buildings to restore the facades to their pristine state’, the Council has previously brought forward initiatives such as the Chesterfield Townscape Heritage Initiative (2010 – 2012). This sought to regenerate the historic and architectural value of buildings in the town centre, including the Black & White buildings. The scheme was funded through the Heritage Lottery Fund, Derbyshire Economic Partnership and Chesterfield Borough Council. There was an investment in excess of £1,400,000 in the town, resulting in structural repairs, reinstatement of missing architectural detail and the bringing about the reuse of otherwise redundant floor-space. There were improvements to some of the Black & White buildings such as 7/9a Packers Row; 1 – 3 Stevenson Place; 40-42 Knifesmithgate and 19 Holywell Street.

In addition to the Townscape Heritage Initiative (THI), the Heritage Lottery Fund has a number of grant programmes relating to historic environment improvements (these are shown on the HLF website: https://www.hlf.org.uk/looking-funding/our-grant-programmes). Unfortunately, excluding the THI, none of these programmes are likely to be applicable to a scheme involving the comprehensive restoration of the privately owned Black & White buildings in Chesterfield town centre.

However, this does not rule out exploring the feasibility of applying for a second phase of THI funding (with perhaps a focus on improvements to the Black & White buildings along Knifesmithgate). This would require liaison with the owners of the relevant buildings and with representatives of the Heritage Lottery Fund. The Council is currently intending to begin the process in April of this year, by contacting the owners of the Black and White buildings with a view to exploring the options to bring forward a match funding scheme to both restore the facades of the Black and White buildings and work with owners to make better use of the employment space.

Neil Johnson

Economic Growth Manager

Chesterfield Borough Council

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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 06:30:33 PM »
So basically it's down to the owners then? But what happens if the Victoria Centre becomes unsafe and parts of it start to fall off for example the rendering between the timbers ( which parts have already have or lose timbers) so becomes a hazard to the public? What I and my partner saw when passing the centre we noticed that some of the windows are broken and the frames holding the glass were very rotten I know repairs costs money but how far does a building have to become dangerous for the council to act?
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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2016, 07:26:25 PM »
Surely - if the aforementioned buildings were reported as unsafe to CBC, they should be able to ensure & enforce that the owners do something about it? After all they are in the town centre and falling debris could be an issue.
If they are as old and crumbling as they seem to be - it makes you wonder about what state their electrics are for example - a minor fire in one of these buildings could be really bad if it spread to the others either side.
Knifesmithgate seems particularly neglected (to me), which seems a shame.
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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 09:12:49 PM »
Might be wrong but didn't a roof fall off a building on West Bars in town a while back? When I lived at Sheffield some buildings in the city centre were really bad. Their was a derelict factory on Sidney Street  an old steelworks it was closed for years then sold to a developer who partly demolish the building then stopped halfway though. The site was not even boared off to the public you could just walk into the site , anyway on the front was an office block the roof was learning in and on the verge of collapse. Many people reported the site to the council about the roof and  fact the factory was been used as a smack den and covered in used needles and kids skate boarding on the site  nothing was ever done. Lucky the owner has now cleared the site for redevelopment.
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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2016, 04:57:57 PM »
Looks like renovation works have started on the Victoria Centre already  :)



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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2016, 07:16:31 PM »
 ;D Is that it!
Bits of wood around the bottom of the pillars  :))
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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2016, 07:27:35 PM »
Below is a response on the chesterfield on line face book group. I posted the  same as on here.


"Regarding the request that Chesterfield Borough Council ‘look into fund matching schemes to allow the owners of historic buildings to restore the facades to their pristine state’, the Council has previously brought forward initiatives such as the Chesterfield Townscape Heritage Initiative (2010 – 2012). This sought to regenerate the historic and architectural value of buildings in the town centre, including the Black & White buildings. The scheme was funded through the Heritage Lottery Fund, Derbyshire Economic Partnership and Chesterfield Borough Council. There was an investment in excess of £1,400,000 in the town, resulting in structural repairs, reinstatement of missing architectural detail and the bringing about the reuse of otherwise redundant floor-space. There were improvements to some of the Black & White buildings such as 7/9a Packers Row; 1 – 3 Stevenson Place; 40-42 Knifesmithgate and 19 Holywell Street.
In addition to the Townscape Heritage Initiative (THI), the Heritage Lottery Fund has a number of grant programmes relating to historic environment improvements (these are shown on the HLF website: https://www.hlf.org.uk/looking-funding/our-grant-programmes). Unfortunately, excluding the THI, none of these programmes are likely to be applicable to a scheme involving the comprehensive restoration of the privately owned Black & White buildings in Chesterfield town centre.
However, this does not rule out exploring the feasibility of applying for a second phase of THI funding (with perhaps a focus on improvements to the Black & White buildings along Knifesmithgate). This would require liaison with the owners of the relevant buildings and with representatives of the Heritage Lottery Fund. The Council is currently intending to begin the process in April of this year, by contacting the owners of the Black and White buildings with a view to exploring the options to bring forward a match funding scheme to both restore the facades of the Black and White buildings and work with owners to make better use of the employment space."
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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2016, 07:01:35 PM »
Looks like renovation works have started on the Victoria Centre already  :)




Will take more than a token repair to sort out the Vic Centre.
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Re: Title: Save Chesterfield's Historic Buildings
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2016, 07:26:21 PM »
I reckon Fly knocked them up during his lunch break
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