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General Discussion / Re: PayPal question?
« on: July 09, 2016, 01:57:25 PM »
I have had this and it should go straight back into your bank!

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Politics / Re: The EU up to its old tricks !
« on: June 30, 2016, 10:57:27 PM »
No, you are correct if we want access to the single market once we have left the EU then we have to agree to the free movement of EU citizens

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Politics / Re: 'OUT' of Europe
« on: June 30, 2016, 10:54:56 PM »
Your'e spot there Cameron just added it to his manifesto to get a few more votes never thinking it would come back and bite him in the ass

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Politics / Re: 'OUT' of Europe
« on: June 28, 2016, 11:24:26 PM »
Just as a point of interest I voted LEAVE! :) I would still vote LEAVE if we have another go! I just don't think that it will happen though :(

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Politics / Re: 'OUT' of Europe
« on: June 27, 2016, 10:59:00 AM »
Yes I didn't say there wouldn't be trouble, but I still think they will find a way to keep us in the EU. That's why Cameron has not invoked article 50 immediately as he said he would if there was a leave vote.

Read this from the Guardian:-  If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this.

When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was “never”. When Michael Gove went on and on about “informal negotiations” ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

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Politics / Re: 'OUT' of Europe
« on: June 26, 2016, 11:07:21 PM »
Of course you know they will get the decision over turned don't you? >:(............ Money talks..........it always has and always will!

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General Discussion / Re: Down sized my Christmas Decs
« on: November 30, 2015, 05:22:25 PM »
We've got three kids, and I can't abide Christmas, well that's not quite right it not Christmas as such, it's the fact that it's been rammed down our necks since September. When I was a kid Christmas wasn't even mentioned till after bonfire night, and deco's didn't go up till mid December. I used to decorate the outside of the house, it looked great, but took two days to do it and another two days to take it all down again. I've all on now to put the tree up and if I could get away without doing that I think I would, the kids aren't really that bothered so long as they get what they want (at great expense I might add) Christmas has lost it's meaning, which is our fault, how many of us go to church for a Christmas service? we don't.................... perhaps we should start! But then we don't go at any other time of the year either, so it would be a bit hypercritical don't you think? So.....................back to downsizing the deco's yes I have! :)) :)) :))   

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Chesterfield Discussion / Re: Staveley Works Plan
« on: August 08, 2015, 01:43:42 PM »
Seen this before, they have lots of big ideas but not much movement, if it takes as long as its taking to build that marina thingy in town it'll never get done.
I live just up the road from there and personally I would sooner see the big steel works where people could have a decent job and earn some real money, but I suppose I'm old fashioned. :(

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General Discussion / Re: Calais Immigrants
« on: August 06, 2015, 08:02:03 PM »
They are already on here....................hundreds of em and none wi tickets!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

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Chesterfield Discussion / Re: Get set for summer fun in Derbyshire
« on: August 06, 2015, 08:00:56 PM »
I Know...................................not! :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

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General Discussion / Re: Calais Immigrants
« on: August 05, 2015, 11:47:18 PM »
They could use Cruise ships!

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Chesterfield Discussion / Re: Get set for summer fun in Derbyshire
« on: August 05, 2015, 11:45:31 PM »
Wow!..................... looks absolutely fantastic! ::)..................... Can't wait to put a potty on mi head and get stuck in between some boulders on a cold wet rainy day.  :)) :)) :)) :))

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I am trying to be a bit...................shall we say diplomatic? As the other week I reported a suspicious incident I witnessed at work and was told while reporting it to "be careful what you are saying" I thought "tell that to those on their sunbeds in Tunisia mate" So with regards to our colonial cousins I am very wary at the moment!!!!

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Well, it's possible but as I said I did not see anyone at the time, and of course the plod did not rush out to take a better look!

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Sorry for late reply Pete, it was near Darnall, Sheffield. I expect it was kids (Big kids most likely!) although I personally did not see anyone.

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