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General Category => Chesterfield Discussion => Topic started by: Sorastro on May 01, 2022, 02:04:39 PM
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Over the past few weeks there has been much debate about the state of Chesterfield town and it's centre. I believe I kicked it off a few weeks back with a letter in the D.T. about how Chesterfield had "had it's day". This was countered by a D.T. reporters opinion and a business owner in the towns opinion about how "vibrant" it was and I'd got it all wrong and subsequent letters, for and against,on the subject.
Since the start of the year my bank of 50 plus years rode off into the sunset, M&S are moving, the rear of Burlington house on Burlington street STILL looks like a bombs site, the building on Knifesmithgate {known as the Vic veranda} that building is owned {apparently} by a company in London {who probably don't even know where Chesterfield is} and now Eyres have gone bang leaving a big empty property just like Elder way, that apparently is still only half full, and the old Council offices on Saltergate, the market is a joke and to top it all the car parking charges have recently gone up.
The only NEW building I can see is the Northern gateway building on the donut island, I'll give it five years and it will be a fast food outlet.
The new multi storey car park opposite looks like a psychedelic cheese grater, it's a carbuncle .
As I put in my D.T. letter virtually everything I need I can get by going to Clay Cross and it's free parking, I find less and less reasons to visit Chesterfield.
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It is just so easy and quick to buy online these days....but you cannot beat wandering around the shops, it is a much more social way to shop...The out-of-town developments don't help though....car parking charges....etc.
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I'm wondering what Clay Cross will be like after all the alterations have been completed?
Chesterfield is a let down now for us!
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According to what appears in the D.T. it looks like the town centre will eventually end up being just up market flats and yuppy bars and the businesses of Chesterfield will end up on the periphery.
Every time someone mentions a large empty building in town there's talk of flats.
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Booming town or doss hole? A bit of both. I think the town as a whole IS booming as far as business is concerned, but the former shopping centre has taken a double hit. Having expanded southwards across Markham Road in the boom years (crucially with free parking), it has now been hit by internet shopping. Shrinkage is inevitable, but because both shops and shoppers want to be where the free parking is, it's shrinking from the north (Co-op, Victoria Centre, Knifesmithgate and now Eyres and M&S).
Free parking is key. Markham Road is the new town centre. Yet still the council persists with its famed Northern Gateway, with its row of empty units forever proclaiming "coming soon" eateries. It will soon be a gateway to nowhere.
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There's not much for us in the town centre these days so we rarely go
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With my posts bemoaning Chesterfield it sounds like I've got it in for Chesterfield, maybe I have, but other towns of roughly the same size are also as bad so Chesterfield is not alone in urban decline I was just using Chesterfield as a {good} example.
People may ask {as I'm Chesterfield born and bred} why do I seemingly berate it so, it's simple, I say as I find, just because I was born here does not mean I have a moral obligation to support it. Whenever I go to town nowadays nothing seems to change, new shops do open yes, but then usually within a couple of months they are shut again. I happened to be on Packers row yesterday stood outside what used to be Greenwoods tailors, Packers row is what 250 yards long? and at the moment there are 3 empty shops on it, and that's just one small street in the town. The market, to say it was a Friday as usual was a joke, possibly 8 to 10 stalls max most of them selling tat.
Not only are there empty shops all over town but just think of the empty business premises above them.
So if you then take away the charity shops, the betting shops and pound shops and you'll be left with next to nothing.
I read in the D.T. that Chesterfield Council are trumpeting all this new business that's {supposed} to be coming to Chesterfield, all I can say is, if true, they want to hurry up.
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Sorastro wrote : So if you then take away the charity shops, the betting shops and pound shops and you'll be left with next to nothing
Then take away the coffee shops and fast food outlets you will be left with nothing.
My wife and I went into town a couple of weeks ago (first time since Covid) and we couldn't believe how much it had changed - and not for the better (in our opinion).
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With my posts bemoaning Chesterfield it sounds like I've got it in for Chesterfield, maybe I have, but other towns of roughly the same size are also as bad so Chesterfield is not alone in urban decline I was just using Chesterfield as a {good} example.
People may ask {as I'm Chesterfield born and bred} why do I seemingly berate it so, it's simple, I say as I find, just because I was born here does not mean I have a moral obligation to support it. Whenever I go to town nowadays nothing seems to change, new shops do open yes, but then usually within a couple of months they are shut again. I happened to be on Packers row yesterday stood outside what used to be Greenwoods tailors, Packers row is what 250 yards long? and at the moment there are 3 empty shops on it, and that's just one small street in the town. The market, to say it was a Friday as usual was a joke, possibly 8 to 10 stalls max most of them selling tat.
Not only are there empty shops all over town but just think of the empty business premises above them.
So if you then take away the charity shops, the betting shops and pound shops and you'll be left with next to nothing.
I read in the D.T. that Chesterfield Council are trumpeting all this new business that's {supposed} to be coming to Chesterfield, all I can say is, if true, they want to hurry up.
There's more than you who bemoan the Town Centre Sorastro. The fact is it doesn't offer a variety of shops. people will just use the internet or go further afield unless the council brings in businesses which are useful and what people want.
A few years ago for example we had a choice of shops which sold school uniforms. M&S probably still do but I don't go into Primark so unsure if they do - are there others?
The Market was booming over the weekends. I used to love to wander around there on Saturdays. I used to buy some of my clothes from off the stalls.
Curtain and clothing material could be bought and one stall provided making curtains to order -
The list is endless!
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Been to town this morning and noticed the old Greenwoods gents outfitters shop on Packers row has now re opened, as a gents outfitting shop!!!
Also the old T K Maxx shop on Vicar lane has re opened, or is re opening, wonder how long they will last.
The market still selling the same old tat.
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Do you mean TJ Hughes not TK Max? It has reopened under One beyond.
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Do you mean TJ Hughes not TK Max? It has reopened under One beyond.
You are correct, my mistake. My wife is always pulling me up for getting shop names wrong.
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In the words of Joni Mitchell's 'Big Yellow Taxi'........
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
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It is just so easy and quick to buy online these days....but you cannot beat wandering around the shops, it is a much more social way to shop...The out-of-town developments don't help though....car parking charges....etc.
I have, over the last couple of hours, spent just short of £180 without leaving my armchair. A parka, workshop manual, socket tool, car parts x5, all of which would probably available in our historic but ghostly town centre. Proof, if any were needed, of the power of the internet. (And no car parking fees!!)
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According to what appears in the D.T. it looks like the town centre will eventually end up being just up market flats and yuppy bars and the businesses of Chesterfield will end up on the periphery.
Every time someone mentions a large empty building in town there's talk of flats.
This weeks D.T. page 18....... "BURLINGTON HOUSE WILL BE CONVERTED INTO FLATS ABOVE EXISTING BUSINESSES"
I did read somewhere where people either trying to buy,or insure {or both} flats above business premises find it's not that easy as it's simply because they ARE above businesses.
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S'pose we'll find out if the places are insurable, after they have been done.
Saw something on Facebook about this project. Someone mentioned parking for said development.
Someone replied, can't they use the underground parking where the pet shop was :))
Macey's?
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Just as an add on to this post.........
had occasion to visit a friend of mine in Brampton this morning and drop the wife off in town, got as far as Penmore in Hasland and the traffic was choc a bloc.
Seems the council in it's infinite wisdom picked Saturday {of all days} to close off the bypass from Temple Normanton down to Horns bridge.
Needless to say I did a u turn and went back home.
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Just as an add on to this post.........
had occasion to visit a friend of mine in Brampton this morning and drop the wife off in town, got as far as Penmore in Hasland and the traffic was choc a bloc.
Seems the council in it's infinite wisdom picked Saturday {of all days} to close off the bypass from Temple Normanton down to Horns bridge.
Needless to say I did a u turn and went back home.
This information was in fact in this weeks D.T. but no doubt it still wouldn't have stopped the mayhem.
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There appears to be a rumour that Clay Cross is planning to re open it's railway station to encourage more people to visit, if this does happen it looks like yet another nail in Chesterfields coffin.
Was in town the other day only to find Bowrings butchers on Glumangate has closed and I believe the R.B.S. on Stephenson place is now no more.
It comes to something when potentially a small "pit village" could end up outdoing one of the major towns in Derbyshire for visitors and footfall in general. I think Chesterfield council should take a long hard look at what's happening there.
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Went to town yesterday, yes I know it sounds like I go a lot to a place I don't like but it's only because my bank is there, believe me if they opened a branch in C/Cross {or anywhere else near me for that matter} I wouldn't go to town at all.
Noticed they've opened a new Subway on low pavement whilst the other one near Dents still seems to be trading.
The market was "bustling" with all of 6 stalls in use, so much so the traders spread their wares over several tables mainly because they can.
We went by bus to Derby the other day for a few hours {Wed} hour there hour back. Got off the bus there and immediately bumped into a relation of mine,what's the chances eh! Had a nice cuppa in the Eagle market, it seemed like "half day" as a few stalls were closed but it was still busier than Chesterfield markets "busier" days, but I noticed on the way out there was a petition for people to sign as it seems someone is wanting to close it so that could account for some of the closed shops in there. had a good walk round the Cathedral quarter and looked round the Cathedral itself. Still plenty of shops and very busy, then there's the Eagle centre or it might be called Westfield now but that's like a Meadowhall but cleaner.
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Barclays bank Rose hill............Permanently closed.
Yep the ship is sinking {albeit slowly} and rats are sloping off one by one but Chesterfield is very much on the decline, and no one will convince me otherwise. If it wasn't for the fact the Crooked Spire is there it would soon be a virtual ghost town.
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The new building on the Donut isn't full yet....would have thought it would have been filled with takers in the planning stages..
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Went in that new discount shop a couple of months ago {the one that opened in Dents the chemist's old shop} can't remember the name of it but it doesn't seem to matter now as the wife has just returned from town today and told me it's closed down.
Just noticed a new shop opened on low pavement, some sort of jewellers shop next to the new Subway shop, just how many jewellers shops do we need in town, if there's anything that's a luxury nowadays it's jewellery.
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Has anybody come back from shopping, especially in town, and thought "I've been overcharged for a particular item or items".....I have.
I may seem trivial and insignificant and probably only a few pence at a time, but none the less. Actually I don't really mind being overcharged for something so long as I am made aware of the price beforehand and therefore I can make a conscious decision whether to buy it or not.
I actually bought an item off a stall during the pandemic months and when I had already put it in my bag along with other items it turns out, when I queried the lack of change, I had been charged £2:50 for that one item and I could have got the same item from Tesco for about a pound. The last time I used that stall, a few weeks ago, I bought one item on sale at £1:30 per pound, it was weighed and I was charged £1:40, so when I got home I got my {accurate} kitchen scales out and weighed it......it was just under 14 ounces.
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Methinks a case for Trading Standards.
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Went in that new discount shop a couple of months ago {the one that opened in Dents the chemist's old shop} can't remember the name of it but it doesn't seem to matter now as the wife has just returned from town today and told me it's closed down.
Correction:- the shop is open..........my wife needs to go to Specsavers.
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Not so much overcharged as wrongly priced.
Went to Tesco's in C/C the other day, we needed some eggs as I do like my eggs so buy a dozen at a time. Looked along the shelves there were at least 6 different boxes of eggs but they were not priced properly {I only saw 3 price tags along the shelf. I picked a box of a dozen above the price about £1:85 or so and when we got home and the wife checked the receipt we had been charged £3:20 for them, and it's not the first time either. A couple of weeks ago we went there and just in the entrance were bottles of Bells whiskey priced at £18 so I got one, when we reached the bottom of the store near the soft drinks there was a similar bin with the same bottle for £17.
I called over a member of staff who was picking and asked her to check the price, she scanned it and said £17 so I told her about the wrongly priced bin on the entrance and she said she would sort it right away, when we left 20 minutes later no one had been anywhere near.
Yesterday we shopped at Aldi!!
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Coming back from Asda Forest Town yesterday, down from Heath and there's a brand new electronic sign been put up on the bypass and it tells you that, at that moment, there are 253 parking spaces available in Chesterfield......I'm not surprised!
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Came down Derby Rd in town about 4.30pm. The sign opposite McD's said there were 718!!
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Never a doss hole not in my eyes. I'm born and bred chesterfield and I wouldn't ever diss my hometown. I may not live there because my father moved us when I was young but chesterfield is the best for me.
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Forgot about this........ I went to town a couple of weeks ago and when I got off the bus I found my watch had stopped. The last time I had a battery fitted in a watch was about 2 years ago and paid a fiver so I dropped it off in the market hall and they said ready in half an hour.
I went to pick it up and was charged just under a TENNER!!
I usually buy strips of batteries from the pound shop and use those but I'd had the last lot that long I binned them, so it's back to the pound shop for me.
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I saved up for a watch that doesn't need a battery because in the small useless town that we moved to you would be charged more than a tenner. When I did have a watch with a battery in it I got charged £14 and it took the woman a week to get my watch back to me. At least in chesterfield you have shops where you can get clothes shoes electric items bedding etc. Where I am you can't even get a pair of shoes as there isn't o one shoe shop it shut, there isn't a decent clothes shop it's just charity shops which at time's they are helpful to people, there is one bank for everyone that only opens from 9am to 2pm there is one small dentist one small health centre which two days a week is closed for staff training a library open three full days out of seven and most of the time no one is in it. I could mention more but it's too depressing this stupid place we moved to infact it's a dump and if you are not from where I now live the ones who are born here make you unwelcome. I would say that the people still living in chesterfield are very lucky to have the shops they have i wish I could just walk to a clothes shop or shoe shop and not have to spend money on bus fare everytime I need clothing or shoes. I went out yesterday to somewhere for a pair I trainers and the bus fare was £8:60 for just over a half hour journey the wait for a bus back was an hour. If I go to other places up in this county it costs either £7:90 or £6:80. Them journeys can be half an hour the busses are dirty inside and the windows not cleaned so you can't see out of them. When I visited chesterfield this year I couldn't believe how clean the comet bus was compared to the bus I go on where I live now newspapers left on seats tin cans on the floor dirty seats where people sit with their feet up the bus drivers say nothing. Also the bus station in chesterfield is clean the ones up here are covered in graffiti by people have no lighting and pizza boxes all over the floor and the bins don't get emptied by the council they just leave them full for too long. I wish I was back in chesterfield putting my money in my hometown instead of putting it in the useless hopeless county up here that has nothing going for it.
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I saved up for a watch that doesn't need a battery because in the small useless town that we moved to you would be charged more than a tenner. When I did have a watch with a battery in it I got charged £14 and it took the woman a week to get my watch back to me. At least in chesterfield you have shops where you can get clothes shoes electric items bedding etc. Where I am you can't even get a pair of shoes as there isn't one shoe shop it shut, there isn't a decent clothes shop it's just charity shops which at time's they are helpful to people, there is one bank for everyone that only opens from 9am to 2pm there is one small dentist one small health centre which two days a week is closed for staff training a library open three full days out of seven and most of the time no one is in it. I could mention more but it's too depressing this stupid place we moved to infact it's a dump and if you are not from where I now live the ones who are born here make you unwelcome. I would say that the people still living in chesterfield are very lucky to have the shops they have i wish I could just walk to a clothes shop or shoe shop and not have to spend money on bus fare everytime I need clothing or shoes. I went out yesterday to somewhere for a pair I trainers and the bus fare was £8:60 for just over a half hour journey the wait for a bus back was an hour. If I go to other places up in this county it costs either £7:90 or £6:80. Them journeys can be half an hour the busses are dirty inside and the windows not cleaned so you can't see out of them. When I visited chesterfield this year I couldn't believe how clean the comet bus was compared to the bus I go on where I live now newspapers left on seats tin cans on the floor dirty seats where people sit with their feet up the bus drivers say nothing. Also the bus station in chesterfield is clean the ones up here are covered in graffiti by people have no lighting and pizza boxes all over the floor and the bins don't get emptied by the council they just leave them full for too long. I wish I was back in chesterfield putting my money in my hometown instead of putting it in the useless hopeless county up here that has nothing going for it.
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I saved up for a watch that doesn't need a battery because in the small useless town that we moved to you would be charged more than a tenner. When I did have a watch with a battery in it I got charged £14 and it took the woman a week to get my watch back to me. At least in chesterfield you have shops where you can get clothes shoes electric items bedding etc. Where I am you can't even get a pair of shoes as there isn't one shoe shop it shut, there isn't a decent clothes shop it's just charity shops which at time's they are helpful to people, there is one bank for everyone that only opens from 9am to 2pm there is one small dentist one small health centre which two days a week is closed for staff training a library open three full days out of seven and most of the time no one is in it. I could mention more but it's too depressing this stupid place we moved to infact it's a dump and if you are not from where I now live the ones who are born here make you unwelcome. I would say that the people still living in chesterfield are very lucky to have the shops they have i wish I could just walk to a clothes shop or shoe shop and not have to spend money on bus fare everytime I need clothing or shoes. I went out yesterday to somewhere for a pair I trainers and the bus fare was £8:60 for just over a half hour journey the wait for a bus back was an hour. If I go to other places up in this county it costs either £7:90 or £6:80. Them journeys can be half an hour the busses are dirty inside and the windows not cleaned so you can't see out of them. When I visited chesterfield this year I couldn't believe how clean the comet bus was compared to the bus I go on where I live now newspapers left on seats tin cans on the floor dirty seats where people sit with their feet up the bus drivers say nothing. Also the bus station in chesterfield is clean the ones up here are covered in graffiti by people have no lighting and pizza boxes all over the floor and the bins don't get emptied by the council they just leave them full for too long. I wish I was back in chesterfield putting my money in my hometown instead of putting it in the useless hopeless county up here that has nothing going for it.
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Just been browsing and came across the news that Birds bakery shop on Packers row is to close end of January!! another nail in Chesterfields coffin
They blame "lack of footfall in the town", made worse when Marks and Spencer upped sticks.
I wonder how long it will take M&S to figure out they may have shot themselves in the foot by moving.
I've been to the retail park only twice since M&S moved there and, because of that, parking spaces are at a premium, M&S are getting a lot of car shoppers yes, but they MUST have lost a lot of the "regulars" when they moved, and I also noticed when I went into the new shop how many younger people were in there.
Also don't be surprised when the council catch on and suddenly start charging for parking.
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Re the Ravenside car park...looks a reight hassle trying to get out...two sets of traffic lights and massive queues...
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Just been browsing and came across the news that Birds bakery shop on Packers row is to close end of January!! another nail in Chesterfields coffin
They blame "lack of footfall in the town", made worse when Marks and Spencer upped sticks.
I wonder how long it will take M&S to figure out they may have shot themselves in the foot by moving.
I've been to the retail park only twice since M&S moved there and, because of that, parking spaces are at a premium, M&S are getting a lot of car shoppers yes, but they MUST have lost a lot of the "regulars" when they moved, and I also noticed when I went into the new shop how many younger people were in there.
Also don't be surprised when the council catch on and suddenly start charging for parking.
We haven't been yet to M&S, I'm waiting for the excitement to die down ::) The land is privately owned so I'm not sure the council will have a say in parking fees
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In this weeks D.T. using an AI image generator to show what Chesterfield of the future will look like.............
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"Haunting image of the town in year 3000", finishing the piece with "Offering a somewhat dystopian landscape, shrouded in gloom"
Dystopian landscape...so not much change there then!
When you watch futuristic films, that have been produced for decades, like Bladerunner, Time machine or Soylent green, star wars even it's not exactly looking rosy for the masses is it.
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We finally visited M&S a couple of weeks ago.
Nothing spectacular clothing wise and the men's section isn't much.
I think they must be the only place in the UK who are not bothered about heating costs - I was so hot I couldn't wait to leave.
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Had to nip into town this morning on an errand and walking through the big market outside Primark I counted only TWELVE stalls being used and for a Saturday {supposedly the busiest day of the week for anybody} that was pathetic.
Yes it was busy with shoppers but they seemed to be spending in the actual shops and next to nobody was perusing the market stalls.
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Had to nip into town this morning on an errand and walking through the big market outside Primark I counted only TWELVE stalls being used and for a Saturday {supposedly the busiest day of the week for anybody} that was pathetic.
Yes it was busy with shoppers but they seemed to be spending in the actual shops and next to nobody was perusing the market stalls.
You are still lucky to have the shops in chesterfield that you do and if you are able to walk to them. I went out today and ended up on 5 different busses. If only I could still be living in chesterfield I would be so pleased. Shops I could walk to and get what I needed without the expense of busses. I do sometimes shop online but with clothing I always like to try something on if I can before I buy. When I was in chesterfield last year I went round the market and it brought back so many memories of when I went round the market with my mum and brother when we were kid's, it used to be packed back then yes but to still have the market now but on a smaller scale is something. I hope chesterfield never lose that market it's got too much history connected to the town.
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From this weeks D.T.
Apparently there is to be a public meeting basically to discuss the "state" of Chesterfield and it's centre.
The Civic society, who have organised it, say that the town has become a matter of "lively discussion" over the past few month's.
They also noted that Chesterfield is coming under "threat" from decline.
Now it seems people are really starting to sit up and take notice of the state of the town.
The meeting is to be held at St. Thomas's church centre Chatsworth road from Monday 27th February from 7:30pm
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Well! this weeks D.T. was full of sunshine wasn't it?
page 3 {and headline} millions in bonus's paid to pencil pushers at the Town hall.
page 4 "Chesterfield worst in country for doctor waiting times"
page 8 council to raise taxes
page 19 pensioner Maureen says "Town's going to pot"
and of course page 38 "Counties drivers face worst road conditions in England"
Still on a lighter note:
page 17 twenty four million to be spent tarting up and improving Clay Cross......WATCH OUT CHESTERFIELD!!!! your days are numbered.
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Yes the D.T. is now full of "promises" mainly from the council and others "We're going to do this, we're going to do that,open this, spend that, build this, renovate that...........
The company I worked for many years ago had a slogan which fits this to a T :-
"IT'S ONLY A PROMISE TILL I'TS DELIVERED"
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Yes the D.T. is now full of "promises" mainly from the council and others "We're going to do this, we're going to do that,open this, spend that, build this, renovate that...........
The company I worked for many years ago had a slogan which fits this to a T :-
"IT'S ONLY A PROMISE TILL I'TS DELIVERED"
That is spot on!!
When I support residents I ALWAYS say 'I can't promise you as ultimately someone else will have the final say' I do always add that I will do my best to help in anyway i can - which I do.
Promises come easy to say but the deliverence is much more difficult in some cases.
There's so much waffle out there !!
That's me back off my soap box and I've put it away!!
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Walked along Burlington street the other day, noticed that the bargain shop {front of Burlington house that used to be Bright house} is or has already has closed down.
I'm actually convinced there's no one at the council knows exactly what to do with Chesterfield
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Seen in the DT today online that some people in chesterfield are saying again about shopping in the town. What I still don't get is why? Someone mentioned that Woolies had gone well they all did quite a while ago and the person said that they can't get Christmas gifts in chesterfield? but they can get Christmas cards. Christmas gifts they can't find in one of the following shops tk maxx, b and m, home bargains, the range, boots, Asda, the 24 hour Tesco, the entertainer, Primark, m and s, h&m, etc I'm amazed that someone said they couldn't find a Christmas gift yet look at the shops named and still more to name. Most people if buying gifts at Christmas mainly buy a gift set or perfume or clothes and or toys all of which you can get in chesterfield. 30 miles I had to travel up here in the north east of england just to get to a Primark, m and s or tk maxx etc I still wish I lived near to shops that I could walk to, you don't know how lucky you are. Shopping online yes I can do and helps but you still sometimes have to go to the shop and try things on.
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Walked along Burlington street the other day, noticed that the bargain shop {front of Burlington house that used to be Bright house} is or has already has closed down.
I'm actually convinced there's no one at the council knows exactly what to do with Chesterfield
In town the other day, another shop on Burlington street about to bite the dust Tresspass {in between Specsavers and the old M&S}
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Walked along Burlington street the other day, noticed that the bargain shop {front of Burlington house that used to be Bright house} is or has already has closed down.
I'm actually convinced there's no one at the council knows exactly what to do with Chesterfield
Noticed yesterday that it has re opened under another name selling clothes {I believe} I'll give it till Xmas!!!
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There appears to be a rumour that Clay Cross is planning to re open it's railway station to encourage more people to visit, if this does happen it looks like yet another nail in Chesterfields coffin.
It comes to something when potentially a small "pit village" could end up outdoing one of the major towns in Derbyshire for visitors and footfall in general. I think Chesterfield council should take a long hard look at what's happening there.
I've been given to understand the millions promised to C/C to "develop" the place has been given the go ahead.
Lets hope they know what they are doing, firstly by looking at what's happening in Chesterfield and basically do the exact opposite.
You never know maybe it could be a turning point for the Cross and it could finally start to lose it's infamous label.
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Again I'd do a house swap with any of you and then when you have swapped to the seaside town in Northumberland with one Co-op food store only, one Tesco food only one heron food store a Morrison's, one bank one dentist who are not accepting nhs patients two small ladies clothes shops small not even for all ages, and NO MENS WEAR shop at all, a small post office. And then 4 charity shops. A paint shop and a hardware shop a bookies and that it's folks. You would see what you are missing after the swap.
Up here doesn't have a wh smith, a asda, a TK Maxx, a m&s, a range, a b&m, a home bargains, a shoe shop, a superdrug, a wilko, etc so yes it's a seaside town but they could put other shops like that here but they don't and like I've said before it's more time and money using busses which are never on time. I still say chesterfield is lucky to have what you have and even if a shop does close down there you still have more to keep you going. when a shop up here closes we just either get nothing or another charity shop. This seaside town is also much more expensive to live in. Smaller the place dearer the price so they say.
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Just heard on the old crystal set that Wilko's are about to go bang {nationwide} so that's another shop in town going to close.
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Just heard on the old crystal set that Wilko's are about to go bang {nationwide} so that's another shop in town going to close.
Hubby's just told me the same. I'm thinking the pound shops have hit them hard??
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Just got back from town checking the prices in Wilko for any bargains...they have plenty of "sale" signs on products but you can still get most of them cheaper elsewhere.
Walked through the market, supposed to be a market day in Chesterfield I think there were four maybe five stalls in total!!
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Just heard on the old crystal set that Wilko's are about to go bang {nationwide} so that's another shop in town going to close.
Tbh wilko is always empty and staff just stand doing nothing. If they do get customers they ask you to pay by card so they just continue to stand there. The staff didn't even want to serve you anymore but it's not like they were stocking the shelves either.
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Just got back from town checking the prices in Wilko for any bargains...they have plenty of "sale" signs on products but you can still get most of them cheaper elsewhere.
Walked through the market, supposed to be a market day in Chesterfield I think there were four maybe five stalls in total!!
Very soon it will be wilkgoes when it's possibly closed. Who knows what will happen though but it is expensive and many items you can get elsewhere cheaper.
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Apparently there is an online Wilko scam doing the rounds offering up to 90% discounted goods.
It's a scam because Wilko DON'T now sell on line.....so beware!!
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Apparently there is an online Wilko scam doing the rounds offering up to 90% discounted goods.
It's a scam because Wilko DON'T now sell on line.....so beware!!
(y)
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Heard on radio Sheffield news that Chesterfield council are bankrupt they haven't a pit to poss in !!!!!
So all unnecessary work earmarked will be mothballed {that's jargon for you'll get now't}.... so what else is new.
So it's now official....Chesterfield is a dump! and a penniless one at that, if you keep going they will do next to nothing, vote with your feet and stay away and go elsewhere you'll soon see a turnaround.
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Heard on radio Sheffield news that Chesterfield council are bankrupt they haven't a pit to poss in !!!!!
So all unnecessary work earmarked will be mothballed {that's jargon for you'll get now't}.... so what else is new.
So it's now official....Chesterfield is a dump! and a penniless one at that, if you keep going they will do next to nothing, vote with your feet and stay away and go elsewhere you'll soon see a turnaround.
😭 You called chesterfield a dump, that's upsetting for me.
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Apparently there is an online Wilko scam doing the rounds offering up to 90% discounted goods.
It's a scam because Wilko DON'T now sell on line.....so beware!!
Wilko's was warned but they didn't listen to the advice given to them. The granddaughter was too busy with bonuses. I've not really got much sympathy for the family that ran the business in to the ground. It was overpriced and the sale has been shocking. I went in one the other day and all I saved was 50p. They were still selling stuff at high prices.
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CHESTERFIELD IS NOT A DUMP AND NEVER HAS BEEN AND NEVER EVER WILL BE.
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😭 You called chesterfield a dump, that's upsetting for me.
If it's a dump as you suggest why the hell are you bothering to go on the forum. Surely that wouldn't be good enough for you either. That's actually a disgusting comment about a market town steeped in history people go to work everyday in chesterfield working to feed their families etc. Sheffield oh lord now that place is a untidy mess with more shops closed than open in chesterfield. You trying your best to turn people away from chesterfield or something.
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With my posts bemoaning Chesterfield it sounds like I've got it in for Chesterfield, maybe I have, but other towns of roughly the same size are also as bad so Chesterfield is not alone in urban decline I was just using Chesterfield as a {good} example.
You are actually saying that they open a new shop just for them to shut it a few months down the line. Why would anyone go in to a business to go through the process of getting a shop lease to then close the shop they opened. Unless they had to shut because of a good reason most of them rent a shop for at least 6 to 12 months. You seem to exaggerate things about chesterfield to the next level of it having nothing. The last time I was visiting the hotels were fully booked and the town had plenty of people shopping in it. Going in the spire and queens park. So people have opinions and yes this is mine.
People may ask {as I'm Chesterfield born and bred} why do I seemingly berate it so, it's simple, I say as I find, just because I was born here does not mean I have a moral obligation to support it. Whenever I go to town nowadays nothing seems to change, new shops do open yes, but then usually within a couple of months they are shut again. I happened to be on Packers row yesterday stood outside what used to be Greenwoods tailors, Packers row is what 250 yards long? and at the moment there are 3 empty shops on it, and that's just one small street in the town. The market, to say it was a Friday as usual was a joke, possibly 8 to 10 stalls max most of them selling tat.
Not only are there empty shops all over town but just think of the empty business premises above them.
So if you then take away the charity shops, the betting shops and pound shops and you'll be left with next to nothing.
I read in the D.T. that Chesterfield Council are trumpeting all this new business that's {supposed} to be coming to Chesterfield, all I can say is, if true, they want to hurry up.
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I was pleased to a photograph of the train running in the Queens Park the other day. I thought it had closed. So many children had lots of fun on that train.
Can anyone remember the paddling pool ? It's been gone for many years yet i would love to see it return but it has a cost attached to it so I doubt it will.
It's been so long since we went into the Queens Park, my extended family of children had so much fun in the playground near the café - is the café still open ??
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If it's a dump as you suggest why the hell are you bothering to go on the forum. Surely that wouldn't be good enough for you either. That's actually a disgusting comment about a market town steeped in history people go to work everyday in chesterfield working to feed their families etc. Sheffield oh lord now that place is a untidy mess with more shops closed than open in chesterfield. You trying your best to turn people away from chesterfield or something.
I refer you to my previous posts on the above. It sounds from your post as though your blaming me for Chesterfield's demise when all I am doing is stating the obvious. Go through any of my posts on this subject and tell me where I have fabricated or grossly exaggerated any truths about Chesterfield {in short if I've made it up}.
You deride me for bringing down Chesterfield, yet in the very same paragraph YOU go on to do the same about Sheffield, and what's worse you have spent numerous posts on this topic on what an absolute dive of a place your living in at the moment yet that seems o.k to you, the words pot, kettle and black immediately spring to mind.
As for the first sentence of your post....I have as much right {like you} to be on this forum, till the moderator deems otherwise.
{Voltaire said}... "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
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We need to move on from this now.
Chesterfield 4ever - Sorastro has a right to his/her opinions as you do. What isn't acceptable are the over reacting posts and attacks which have been made to Sorastro by you.
We all respect your views as we respect each others views.
Anymore challenging posts will be deleted! MD
Please lets move on from this MD
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We need to move on from this now.
What she said (y)